Boretos:

I think it had something to do with the power outage this morning.

Boretos:

I just reset everything, so we should be good now.

Boretos:

I did lose the text, so you might want to save your copy.

DM:	if Matt and Keenan save both of theirs they will still ahve the full story

DM:	We have several campaigns stored away in readable form. It's normally the server-keeper's job

Grike #9:

Alright. i don't have the entire session because I restarted Maptool back at the lake

Boretos:

As for our plan, we are going to send in our goons to raid the prison and free our people before running into the woods.

DM:	alright, who is ready for COMBATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Keenan:

you know, i would assume i would be in a cot near the location were the prisoners are kept if theres a free building

Keenan:

so whereever a good place for that is since i dont know where the 2 buildings the prisoners are kept in are

DM:	Also, a watchmen spots a group of half orcs on round 2

Keenan:

what orders can be given before were aware of the problem?

Keenan:

i suppose there orders would just be raise alarm and then start shooting if its safe for them to do so

DM:	alright, loyallist's turn. Keenan, you mind if you handle the warriors on your side? They should all be labeled "Loyalist" and not have brown dots on them

Keenan:

ok, bit annoying that there all scattered around, but thats ok, that makes sence

DM:	Attacker's advantage: they always know when the attack is happening

Keenan:

i assume all guards wake up, get out of bed, and ready themselves, while those who are patrolling get together in whatever direction the watch tower people saw the rebels

DM:	the off duty guards are going to take a bit though. They aren't super well trained

Keenan:

think i moved all of them, i and ico also get up and prepare our stuff

DM:	the watchtower isn't tall enough to give you proper LOS into the town itself

DM:	pretty much. Some of them are going to take penalties from sharing spaces...

Keenan:

that second one was a quick channel so its only 4, oops

DM:	rules say you can't stick people in the same square for most AoE

DM:	otherwise you can always just get nearly infinite people...

Keenan:

oh, i thought that only applied for spirt one since it wasnt mentioned for spirt 2, i wouldnt ahve done that otherwise

Keenan:

in that case can i slightly change our positioning to make it more optimal

Keenan:

anyway, glad i got lighting caster, the second they get close enough, i can just cast without even readying an action

Keenan:

they all get +4 attack and damage for 5 rounds, and i ahve 1 spirt left

Keenan:

did i do something stupid that i wouldnt ahve done?

DM:	what group? I don't see any signals, and I don't think you specified

Keenan:

i signalled by trying to move them, how would i signal?

DM:	1d20+1 for human, 1d20+2 for half-orc. (plus the bonuses you gave)

Keenan:

and i assume all are using tridents and shield for beest combination of armor and damage

DM:	uhh, no trients, but I don't know why you want that for the d8.

Keenan:

tridents are the strongest non metal one handed weapon

Keenan:

you know, thats a good question, for some reason when i decided that i thouhgt tey weret, but i guess they wouldbe

Keenan:

i guess just a club then since we dont ahve access to metal and want to sue shield

Keenan:

still 10 dmaage if its basically same thing with a d6

Grike #9:

If any of you guys saw me move that guy it was an accident, my cat sat on my mouse

Half Orc Rebel Warrior 1:

Bweoiidsgoigd ewtoihgo bbobobob lslsleid

DM:	the tank-tank shuffle: it takes a lot of madness, but it is legal

Keenan:

oops, i guess yeah, it seemed like they were using lethal force on that human

Keenan:

and that guy i just knocked out with the last one is -1

Keenan:

not counting the stunned and staggered guys, theres only 1 left

Keenan:

anyway, i dont think there is anyhting else i can do, is there? did i forget some guy

Old half-orc 14:

One of them's got a knife! They're trying to get free!

Keenan:

is that at the end of my turn so i cant do anyhting

Keenan:

i asssume that the way we trained our soldeirs we also told them to stabilize after knocking unconscious if the battle is over

DM:	but now that it's your turn, you might want to save that civilian

Keenan:

my guys gfor the non tied up ones, well, 2 and 12 do, rest double moved

DM:	I thought he was a barbarian like the others, but he's not

Keenan:

ah, so he was jsut a commoner who joined up with them

Keenan:

im behind now that the buisness bot is prtty much wrapped up

Keenan:

that was meant to be 11 for nonlethal but still hits

DM:	yeah, I see no need in finishing this. The remaining rebels surrender

Keenan:

ok, we took care of alot of them, , only accidently killed 1

Keenan:

with only the cost of 4 of my channels and a bunch of cantrips, as well as a few injuries and that civilian nearly dying

lco:

Alright, I see no other option than bringing them all to town square. We just don't have a building big enough for these guys...

Odran:

what do you think we should do with all fo them sir?

Human Warrior 2:

There is only one punishment for treason.

Keenan:

it says you are but sometimes it says that when your not

lco:

When I first met Tamourne, he was a young man, pious to the very bone. Before he made any decision, he prayed on it. I thought it was foolish at the time, but this time I am going to take his advise. Take them to the new church for the time being; I will give my verdict in the morning.

Keenan:

i assume we guard them really heavily and there all tied up

DM:	he walked inside after that, so you are captian of the guard again

DM:	The new church was going to be a fine place, far more able to accomidate the masses that came every morning and evening.

DM:	Right now though, it still lack a roof, as well as part of it's wall. But it's still the largest structure, and there is only one way in or out.

Odran:

We must stand watch on them till Icos decision, some men stay back to guard the town in case another attack occurs, and smeone stay in between in roder to pass the message along in case we cant hear the intial warning

Keenan:

i have been waiting on them, wonder what there up to

Keenan:

and we leave a guy guarding the mage as well of course

Keenan:

I'm thinking ico will decide to get those who untied themselves and those who didnt surrender

DM:	I really did want to see him play in this campaign, but it was not so

Keenan:

i assume they hav been communicating quietly wiht you the whole time

Keenan:

cant wait to read about all the stuff said, all the plans made, and all the stuff that i didnt see later

Keenan:

so you went to the city where all halforcs were chased out, to get explosives

Keenan:

and i suppose you got it from some blackmarket dealer

Keenan:

since I doubt you would work wit the elves in control

Grike #10:

How much do you really know about Thad's motivations though?

Keenan:

true, dont know much about thad, but i doubt you culd have easily convinced torg to do so

Keenan:

god i hope thad isnt a spy from the capital sent to screw us up

Keenan:

the only good news from all this is alot of soldiers are getting combat experince and a number of them might grow a level i think

DM:	this one has a simple wooden bar blocking it right now.

DM:	the others hear something, and just kind of look at you

DM:	The guard shouted, and the guy on the watchtower repeated it

Keenan:

i dont want to elave the church too unguarded, so i will only take 4 with me, since the remaining 6 shoudl be able to guard the 2 staggered guys

Keenan:

you dont have to go in a straight line to ru right?

Keenan:

i just thought that people would go towards it due to the guy

Keenan:

he still has almost all of his channels excep for those 2 he turned into positive ones

Torg:

Tell me who you think is going to walk out of this room alive.

Keenan:

wait, i assume me and my men move closer, or have i already done that this turn, its been a long turn

Torg:

We tried words. I have struck no one down who wasn't an active threat to my life.

Keenan:

and few people would think that tadryn attacked first, though he might have

Keenan:

i dont see it personally, but i saw that blue dot, and that must mean the blind spanker is back, and now hes not blind

Grike #11:

that attack roll was supposed to be nonlethal so -4

Keenan:

i lvoe that everyone has shield and atleast padded armor, maybe more, not too sure on that

Keenan:

glad you can still attack and flank when prone, i think

Keenan:

i guess ill go back, and hope that Ico can handle it

Keenan:

dont they get a bonus against intimidation dueto the fact that as they believe in nerull they have a lesser fear of death

DM:	yeah, these guys aren't crappy soldiers, but they are kind of fighting the antichrist...

Keenan:

but just thought that as warriors, wouldnt going against orders to be afraid give a situational bonus against intimidation

Keenan:

problem is with spirt, you cant do something like fireball

Keenan:

no, but i imagine it does give confidence, to maybe roll again with a bonus, hopefully

DM:	in this case it does, although it does not grant immunity

DM:	the guy holding the door for you isn't worried now that his giant dick just destroed it

Boretos:

did he put a filter on that spell for his enemies?

Grike #11:

I'm curious about the damage taken from smashing through walls

Boretos:

well, it's ico's turn, so only you know if that's all.

Grike #11:

Who are you asking? also I definitely got some AoOs

Keenan:

shouldnt they still have a _3 to grapply though, cause of the str bonus

DM:	they are now able to hop over the walls like fences. The roof is just thatched.

Boretos:

you telling me that I can't see through- *facepalm*

Odran:

I cant yield to you so simply, but i can let you go

DM:	ok, you said you come after Ico. Ico has had a turn more recently than torg, so Torg needs to get a turn

Grike #11:

I wasn't trying to get ahead of you guys, I was just feeling smug

Grike #11:

At this point it looks like only two people can attack Torg at a time right?

DM:	wait, I feel like Ico has had a turn more recently than Thad

DM:	as long as the information out of order does allow you to make decisions.

Grike #11:

Channeling would provoke if Torg was adjacent right?

Boretos:

I'm beginning to think that the fight is a little unbalanced.

Boretos:

When comparing what Thad is fighting to what Torg is fighting.

Keenan:

if i thorw thad itno a building with a spell, can that kncok him down

Keenan:

and there not on top of each toher anymore, why do they still ahve the penalty?

Keenan:

now that there not in each tohers spaces, tehy get a +1 to thier regular to hit

Keenan:

i thought they were destroyed, except for that one guy

Keenan:

and besides that they get a +2 or 3 on thier touch attack, right?

DM:	they get +1 from attack bonus, -1 from dex, -1 from size

DM:	ok, the guards went this time, so I think it's Torg now?

DM:	actually, do we know why 15 never got up? is this what you were talking about before?

Keenan:

im movign him like he did and is moving to hlep fight

Keenan:

and yeah, i did menthion that, bt the guards around torg besides 9 didnt go yet either

Grike #11:

He should be up as long as you take a move to stand him

Keenan:

and i still dont get why they cant use str for the touch attack to grapple him

Keenan:

though i still dont see why they dont use str? why cant they?

Keenan:

i had asked if thad could be knocked down if he gets trhown nto a building with force

Keenan:

i was going to for a while but i was waiting for brian to speak not knoticing he said yes

DM:	guards and Odran are essentially on the same turn, so it could be either way. Both of you roll of on initiative

Grike #11:

I was just going on the order that people move into my threat range

DM:	ok so this is a matter of weither the guard or Keenan acted first, correct?

Keenan:

and can someone explain to me why the warriors dont use str to touch attack torg

DM:	the guard had to stand up with a move action, so I am going to put it with Keenan finishing the first half of his turn first

DM:	And we have been using Dex for melee touch for some time. actually, has Thad been using that rule?

DM:	ok, Keenan gets precidence here. We do need to keep the train rolling

Keenan:

ok, did i already channel this turn? im a bit confused there

Grike #11:

God no I haven't been using that rule. Why would that be a thing?

DM:	because you can't touch things more accurately by touching them harder.

Grike #11:

When all you have to do is touch something, swinging your weapon faster is key hence STR. DEX makes sense for range, not for melee

Keenan:

because i think that would potentially ahve saved a few of our warriors, so can our warriors use it on torg, please

DM:	ehh, I see his case. We will change it back for now then argue about it in the long term after this campaign...

Keenan:

are we ding it retroactively so that the warriors could ahve potentally hit torg?

Grike #11:

For the record me using dex wouldn't have saved any of the people I downed

DM:	Not a chance. If we start going back 5 rounds this will never end.

Keenan:

anyway, if i can channel this turn, not too sure on that, do you guys know?

Grike #11:

What would the conditions be where you couldn't channel?

Keenan:

i was just thinking i might ahve already done it this turn

Grike #11:

for being blind 2 is good so I'd say it is for this too

Keenan:

i channel a touch attack ray of necro 6, force 6, spirt 1, realized i cant hit you into the wall and still do stuff with necro, so ill jsut do damage

Keenan:

basically, but i also cant see odran yielding and dooming everyone

Keenan:

i thoght it would be though since this was part of an attack?

DM:	this is a special attack, not an ability check. I think we did this before in this campaign

DM:	if it were an ability chcek, it would not allow a feat modifier.

Grike #11:

The feat modifier applies to the opposed STR check!

Grike #11:

It's not an attack roll, the first and third rolls are attack rolls. The second roll is an ability check to which nat ones don't auto fail

DM:	the nat one rule is designed so that you don't suddenly fall over when trying to walk across flat surfaces or lift ten pounds. The specific reason for the nat one rule is so that really good combatants still ahve a chance to fail. This is exactly what the rule was made for.

Grike #11:

The same way we haven't done anything for nat 20's on ability checks (Which I have gotten) we don't do anything for nat ones

Keenan:

I am pretty sure that with you in the last fight, yuo failed to trip me once due to a nat 1 on str

DM:	You succeded on every nat 20 you got in trips, so it never came up. I'm sorry, but I'm gonna pull the DM card here. It's one guy.

Grike #11:

That nat one might have resulted in the total being too low

Keenan:

i dont think so, though not completely sure, im pretty sure we did talk about this though and say that as it was part of an attack, ti counted for the nat 1

Grike #11:

As far as I'm aware nat ones only matter for attack rolls but we can make a houserule that's fine

DM:	You are a houseruled class fighing a houseruled caster using a completely homebrew magic system, under the effects of a homebrew potion.

Grike #11:

I'm not a houseruled class, I'm multiclass barbarian ranger

DM:	at 0hp, you can only take move actions without takeing additoinal damage

Keenan:

why would he do somehting that targets fortitude on torg:9

DM:	yeah, I felt pressure and I caved. Ico has accomplished nothing with his magic...

Grike #11:

Keenan would you mind putting some kind of status symbol on so I don't get confused?

Grike #11:

Seventeen hits. Don't you take damage from attacking from while staggered though?

Grike #11:

I've still got some health left. i'm fairly tanky

Keenan:

i think the rule is we can tell when we've done half rihgt?

Keenan:

i think that might be a house rule, but it might be in a differnet gorups stuff

DM:	I don't think there are any rules either way. Normally, we ask that you show the health bar and let people guess, but I think we have no official rule.

DM:	I am going to say that you need to announce if you are below 25%, other than that nothing.

Keenan:

you are now blind, have lost 4 constitution, so basically 8 damage, and are now pinned and therefore helpless for 3 rounds

DM:	Also, pinned is not helpless. you can move, but are trapped in place

Grike #11:

okay so what's up? pinned doesn't mean healpless

Keenan:

i think completely so and not just cant move in a direction right?

DM:	if I am correct pinned keeps you from taking actions, no? I really thought it did, and I know you can't act in grapple.

Keenan:

yeah, you cant do anyhting, and you also take a -4 to ac

Keenan:

also, if the grappler so chooses, he can make you silent

Grike #11:

Pinned doesn't say anything about no attacks, also you're not grappling me

DM:	unfortunitely, the grappler is not able to make that coice

Keenan:

yeah, so i cant make you silent, and i think immbile means no attacks

Grike #11:

But I can escape being pinned with an escape artist check no?

Keenan:

immobile means cant move at all, wouldnt it be wierd if a person pinned could attack

Keenan:

theres no counter grapple, its just magic, you have the pinnned condition for 3 rounds

DM:	you can escape a grapple by escape artist check. But even though this is like a grapple in any way, it's also not a grapple (I know that sounds like BS)

Keenan:

its not an actual grapple, its jst that the effect is often caused by grapple

Grike #11:

The SRD says I can make an escape artist check to escape being pinned at which point I'm still being grappled

DM:	also, when was it the guard's turn in the first place.

DM:	Look up the rules for hold person. That is what this spell is equivelent to

Keenan:

its a magical effect causing the pinned condition to occur continuously

Keenan:

basically, you could use escape artist, but then the magic would just continue to take hold again

DM:	I'm sorry dude, but he got you. You are free to call BS, but I need to rule one way or the other, and this is how it's been before.

Grike #11:

I'm skeptical of a magic system that allows that many effects to be put in place at once at level 4

DM:	it's a discussion that has gone on for 6 years, and we always welcome another voice

Grike #11:

Hold person also allows for new saves each turn so since this is the equivalent shouldn't I get that?

Grike #11:

Yes but I should get a new save against the pin right?

Grike #11:

Since that's the case for hold person and this is the equivalent

Keenan:

i think its a bit powerful to not get a save, but thats up to brian ultimately,

Keenan:

and you dont get your save till your turn so you still take the 4 damage

DM:	if both sides want more saves, let there be more saves.

Keenan:

and you also have 4 less con, so as long as your level 4, thats also the equivalent of doing 4 damage so your at 49 damagee basically

Keenan:

k, ill just attack for my two, tell me if they hit

DM:	alright, 5 attacks on Torg and one of them is gonna hit

Keenan:

be back in a bit, ijust have my guards continue to wail on thad, and remember your blind too if you get out of it

Grike #11:

is it a 1 0r 10 that stabilizes? Also last time I got my will saze before the guards' turn. Was that a mistake?

Keenan:

your turn was just short since all you had to do was roll a will save

Keenan:

if your unconscious then they will move to stabilize the human guard first,and then me and the half orcs

Keenan:

since they'll know that halforcs can last longer in near dath

Grike #11:

I'm going to die in like two turns anyways when my temporary hit points go away

DM:	so temp normally follows that rule, but not with barbarian rage by special exception

DM:	also, when the effects of the water flip, he will be in trouble

Grike #11:

temp go away at the end of the rage which has two turns left. I'm already at -6 so I'm going to negative 14 unless the CON damage goes away

Keenan:

and the con damage goes away at a rate of 1 per day, sorry

Grike #11:

Bah it was fun. I'll totally kill you next time though

Grike #11:

At least my ghost can be proud of my blaze of glory!

Keenan:

though i love how on my last conscious breath i hit you

Grike #11:

I have a serious problem with the magic in this campaign but that's an issue for later

Keenan:

oh come on, they arent going to listen to somene who just killed ico, we arent a barbarian tribe

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Keenan:

once again, we arent a tribe of barabrians, there not going to listen to that

DM:	also, they are currently in combat, and much less interested in what you have to say

Grike #11:

Oh not that it matters but the guard below me is definitely dead

Keenan:

oh yeah, you did a number on him and we didnt have time to stabilize

DM:	the guards inside try to save the wounded and don't try to chase, the others fail to catch you

DM:	Ico is about 40 right now, and elves live to about 150 in this setting

Keenan:

now the question is if torg will die once the drink stats are flipped

Keenan:

the men around me would have stabilized me in the 17 turns they had

DM:	I am consideing redoing the bleeding out rules because of that and other reasons

Grike #11:

And when you're by yourself, dieing is very easy!

Keenan:

nah, hes a half orc, he cna go deep into negative too

Keenan:

there are 2 guys to stabilize, the only one at risk was the human, who we should roll for

Grike #11:

Well if you count the going to -20 which I forgot about then the guy below me is probably alive too

Keenan:

i was not sure to hit you with the mace or death touch, though n the end it seems the mace was neccesary

Grike #11:

No save? Every death effect has a fort check I thought

Keenan:

i personally dot like them, so i only use them as a last resort

Grike #11:

I don't like anything about this magic system haha

DM:	power word kill literally kills you if your remaining hp is less than 100

DM:	Again, if the guys who didn't have to restart can save chat logs this time, that would be good.